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Post by soysauce07 on Jun 16, 2009 12:04:55 GMT -5
Since this thread is lacking..
Who was Tom Quinn before joining MI-5? Also, why him?
How far along of a field agent was he before Lucas left?
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Post by soysauce07 on Jun 17, 2009 7:28:29 GMT -5
Tom probably had to have been offered the position of Section D Chief before Lucas leave for Russia. Tom Quinn: Man of mystery, friend to women  I think he could had lead a pretty normal life, but with high intelligence. Could have applied to MI-5 and they went through his CV and saw he was an applicable candidate. |
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Post by soysauce07 on Jul 22, 2009 9:40:47 GMT -5
Imagine scenario:
Tom Quinn, university student. For some chance, Lucas is doing an OP at the same university. Turns out Tom's roommate is a hacker and working for some terrorist organization. Lucas saves England from nuclear warfare with Tom's help, thus WELCOME to Section D!
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Post by cbjfan61 on Aug 13, 2009 13:38:51 GMT -5
When I get the Personal Profile book I'll take a look to see what Tom's back story is on how he got in the service.
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Post by cbjfan61 on Aug 25, 2009 15:47:36 GMT -5
Just read the Personal Files book. No mention of Lucas ever having a part of Tom Quinn which would mean yet another continuity error on the writer's part. I think it was a way for the writer's to show that Lucas new people before really 'we the audience' did. In terms of the Section D team that was there when the show started.
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Post by philippa on May 1, 2010 14:52:48 GMT -5
Imagine scenario: Tom Quinn, university student. For some chance, Lucas is doing an OP at the same university. Turns out Tom's roommate is a hacker and working for some terrorist organization. Lucas saves England from nuclear warfare with Tom's help, thus WELCOME to Section D! Sounds like a fanfic waiting to be written! I never thought of this whole "Lucas recruited Tom scenario". It seems plausible enough though. |
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Post by solatido on May 2, 2010 0:59:44 GMT -5
soysauce, Great idea for a thread. :-)
phillipa, Thanks again for finding all the intriguing threads to bump. ;-)
In the men's room at MI5, the two things I recall Lucas asking Harry about is Tom and his ex-wife. So I bet that Lucas had recruited Tom.
I remember that Lucas' two questions served to establish him with deep roots at MI5 and with Harry and also to remind poor Harry of one of his worst failures (Tom). But revisiting Harry's failures fit well with series 6 and 7 where Harry made some of the worst judgment calls of his life. (Tehran bomb and 'turning' the Iranian foreign minister's wife, Arkady's murder).
And in series 2, Harry's less than beautiful side was hard at work, too, in his actions and responses toward Tom, first helping to provoke (2.5) and then exacerbate (2.7,8, and 9) Tom's spy blowup in 2.10 and Tom's eventual return to 'simple humanity'. Looking back, it was easy to see how Harry might have stepped wrong with his own children. Ego, inflexibility, distrust, driven to retain his job at all costs, ruthless exercise of power but bowing to hierarchy, and most devastating, lack of knowledge of Tom's pure heart.
Thankfully, by Lucas' return in series 7, Harry has decided to trust those he loves, rather than invite another blowup like Tom's.
Sorry, this is a thread about Lucas and Tom! All roads seem to lead back to Harry or Ruth for me.
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Post by philippa on May 2, 2010 3:42:40 GMT -5
Ahaha that's because our minds are warped to relate anything and everything back to Ruth and Harry ;D
It still doesn't prove that Lucas would've recruited Tom. I agree with Solatido that it establishes Lucas with deep roots at MI5 when asks after Tom, showing that Lucas and the service go way back. But I'm guessing that Tom and Lucas are about the same age, so possibly they were recruited at around the same time (university perhaps?). Which makes me think that both of them were field officers of the same rank, and Tom was promoted to Section Chief after Lucas had been imprisoned.
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Post by solatido on May 2, 2010 13:21:09 GMT -5
But I'm guessing that Tom and Lucas are about the same age, so possibly they were recruited at around the same time (university perhaps?). Which makes me think that both of them were field officers of the same rank, and Tom was promoted to Section Chief after Lucas had been imprisoned. Sounds very plausible. So Lucas had 8 years to think about Tom living the life he was forced to leave behind. |
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Post by philippa on May 2, 2010 17:23:34 GMT -5
Sounds very cruel if you put it like that. But yes, I think that's exactly what it is.
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Post by solatido on May 3, 2010 0:50:27 GMT -5
Sounds very cruel if you put it like that. But yes, I think that's exactly what it is. I should have written that sentence about Lucas like the Chinese do, with one of four possible 'musical tones'. That was written in the tone of dismay. ;-) |
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Post by inker on May 3, 2010 5:52:54 GMT -5
*goes to watch the "men's room" scene again and asking herself how she could have totally missed that reference to Tom*
.......sigh
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Post by newagent on Jul 12, 2010 20:07:29 GMT -5
Sounds very cruel if you put it like that. But yes, I think that's exactly what it is. I should have written that sentence about Lucas like the Chinese do, with one of four possible 'musical tones'. That was written in the tone of dismay. ;-) I don't think that would do.  Maybe, just maybe, Lucua will talk to Tom and bring him back? ;D |
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